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[WWW-HTML Mailing List Archive Home] [Messages By Thread] [Messages By Date] Re: <NOBR> - Returning to the question ( 2 )
From: Jukka K. Korpela <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:01:02 +0200 (EET) To: www-html@w3.org Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0402280750090.28980@korppi.cs.tut.fi> On Sat, 28 Feb 2004, Rimantas Liubertas wrote: > <...> > M> Perceive that difficultly a content within a <NOBR> > M> would be, suddently, removed from there -- if a certain content was inserted > M> within a <NOBR> tag, it's because such content, effectively, require no > M> wrapping. Consequently, the behavior of the <NOBR> is eminetly structural > M> ( HTML ), it is not, merely, "formatational" ( CCS ). > <...> > > Sorry, I do not get how can you see wrapping as not "formatational". I guess it meant "presentational". > What meaning does it get say in aural media? Maybe 'no break'? For example, if a speech browser is set to read very slowly (maybe because the user has a cognitive disabilities), the browser could treat <nobr> as indicating that the words inside it belong together, so no prolonged pauses should occur inside it. > Other elements say you something about content - is it heading, list, > paragraph or maybe quote. In Strict, you mean? Though even in Strict, <span>, <div>, <script>, <noscript>, <pre> and <br> and a few others are under some suspicion. > <nobr> says you nothing - except that this > line/piece of text should not wrap when presented in visual media. Well, I don't deny that such usage is the real reason for <nobr>, though some good reasons could be given too. In some cases, <nobr> corresponds to very close structural connection between "words", such as in <nobr>500 000</nobr> (in languages and practices that use a space as a thousands separator) or in <nobr>%20</code> (when discussing URL encoding for example) or in <nobr>-1</nobr>. But for the most of it, it is needed because it is the only effective weapon against line breaking rules that browsers actually apply. Other weapons typically hurt the innocent. -- Jukka "Yucca" Korpela, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/Received on Saturday, 28 February 2004 01:01:04 GMT |
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