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Re: Shorten <object> in XHTML 2.0?

From: Jens Meiert <jens.meiert@erde3.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:43:35 +0200 (MEST)
To: www-html@w3.org
Message-ID: <28879.1056991415@www5.gmx.net>

<irony>Sorry, but there are so many Harvard, Yale, Stanford etc. students
involved in this discussion, is nobody here who can propose a real generic and
consequent solution for it right now?</irony>

In practice it's totally irrelevant if you use <object /> or <obj />, <image
/> or <img />, <paragraph /> or <p /> (as long as it works), but one (and
maybe the most important) thing is missing: a consequent naming. Why is there
<td />, but <object />, why is there <p />, but <title /> (please, don't tell
me any history or background...)? So I -- and I guess there are some other
people, too -- prefer one single way to name elements, and then all discussion
is over.


 Jens Meiert.



> 
> Masayasu Ishikawa <mimasa@w3.org> writes:
> 
> > Draft, but since the second Working Draft the spec introduced
> > the Embedding Attribute Collection [1], which means any element can
> > embed an external resource (such as image), not just 'object'.  Most
> > simple image inclusions will be done through the 'src' and 'type'
> > attributes, and only complex cases will be dealt by the 'object'
> > element.
> > 
> > [1]
>
http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-xhtml2-20030506/mod-attribute-collections.html#col_Embedding 
> 
> Cute, but unwise.
> 
> I quote from the cited section 6.6:
> 
> : Examples:
> : 
> : <p src="holiday.png" type="image/png">
> :     <span src="holiday.gif" type="image/gif">
> :         An image of us on holiday.
> :     </span>
> : </p>
> : 
> : <table src="temperature-graph.png" type="image/png">
> : <caption>Average monthly temperature over the last 20 years</caption>
> :
>
<tr><th>Jan</th><th>Feb</th><th>Mar</th><th>Apr</th><th>May</th><th>Jun</th>
> :    
> <th>Jul</th><th>Aug</th><th>Sep</th><th>Oct</th><th>Nov</th><th>Dec</th>
> : </tr>
> : <tr><td> 4</td><td> 2</td><td> 7</td><td> 9</td><td>13</td><td>16</td>
> :     <td>17</td><td>17</td><td>14</td><td>11</td><td> 7</td><td> 4</td>
> : </tr>
> : </table>
> 
> With this design a user agent will waste time checking for non-empty
> values of the src attribute for *every* inline and *every* block level
> element.
> 
> Doesn't processing strategy usually involve looking only at particular
> attributes of interest based on the name of the element?
> 
>                                     -- Bill
> 


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